 1586 - Yes, date unknown
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| Name |
George Chute |
| Prefix |
Sir |
| Suffix |
Knight |
| Birth |
1586 |
Stockwell, Surrey, England  |
| Gender |
Male |
| Acceded |
14 Oct 1608 |
| Knighted |
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| Acceded |
11 Jul 1660 |
| Knighted |
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| Residence |
11 Jul 1660 |
Streatham, Surrey, England |
| Death |
Yes, date unknown |
| Notes |
- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~chute/gp3865.htm#head3
Sir George Chute, Kt., (given name unknown) Evans Chute, Margaret Welford Chute and Ann or Anna Barnham Chute:
«u»«b»The Problems of Sir George«/u»«/b»
The difficulty with Sir George Chute - in addition to the fact that every Bethersden generation of Chutes named their sons either George or Edward, making them all very difficult to separate one from the next - is that his founding of the Irish branch of the family has appeared primarily in one source - Bernard Burke - who doesn't particularly specify which George Chute he's referencing either, beyond the identifying comments, "a military officer", and that he was "Kentish". The only comfortable sense of connection between the Bethersden Chutes and the Chute Hall Chutes comes from the fact that they obviously knew - and kept track of - each other, even through the Vyne years. But the true identity of "Irish George" Chute is difficult to reconcile with independent sources. The difficulties are summarized by Pearman:
"Burke in his «i»Landed Gentry«/i», represents him as the founder of the Irish branch of the family, but I know not upon what authority he does so. Burke says, "George Chute, a military officer, went into Ireland during the rebellion of Desmond, and obtained grants of land near Dingle and in the county of Limerick, which were soon however alienated. He married an Evans of the county of Cork, and had a son Daniel, who acquired in marriage with a daughter of McElligott the lands of Tulligaron, subsequently called Chute Hall, which was confirmed by patent in 1630."
If this was the case, which I doubt, Margaret Welford must have been his second wife, and Anne, daughter of Sir Martin Barnham of Hollingbourne, his third wife. On referring to his will, I find that he mentions his children by his surviving wife, and Anne Price[/Prise], his daughter by Margaret Welford, "to whom a fayre inheritance is descended from her mother, my former wife, which upon my marriage and upon payment of a great sum of money by George Chute, Esq., my father, was soe settled," «u»but he makes no allusion to any family in Ireland«/u»; yet this does not fully decide the point at issue.
In 1627 he seems to have been living at Sonning, in Berks, where he buried his infant daughter Elizabeth. In 1638 he is described as "of Stockwell", and in 1640 he acted as a magistrate for Surrey, at Southwark. In his will, which was proved in 1649, he desires to be "decently and without ostentation buried in the Parish Church of Lambeth, in that isle where my predecessors, the owners of the Manor of Stockwell, which through God's goodness I enjoy, have a right of burial."
«i»"The Chutes of Bethersden, Appledore and Hinxhill", the Reverend A.J. Pearman, M.A., Archaeologia Cantiana, Kent Archaeological Society. Printed for the Society by Mitchell & Hughes, Oxford Street, London. Volume XVIII, 1889«/i»
On the other hand, in a letter dated 6 JUN 1600, E. Whyte writes from Penshurst to Sir Robert Sydney, then Governor of Flushing. The "Mr. Chute" being discussed is George, the son of Philip Chute of Appledore:
"Mr. Chute hath lost his «u»eldest sonne«/u» in Ireland, his second is with you and his third. He understanding by them the desire you had of a good Nagge told me he had the finest in England, which he refused £20 for, and that he would bestow upon you if he could tell how to send it. I desired him to send it to Penshurst and I would take care to ship him over to you. The Nagge runs at grass at his own howse 20 miles hence: he gave me a letter to the Bailiff of his land to deliver him when I should send for him, and upon Monday he is to be sent for."
The use of the word "lost" in this letter is odd. Most would assume this meant that George had died in Ireland, but it may have meant that George was "lost to him" temporarily, in the sense of being "out of reach". If it did mean "lost" in the permanent sense of the word, Chute genealogists have a lot more work to do on the Irish Chutes!
On the still third hand, how is it that George son of Philip had two "eldest sons"? Here we have a reference to his losing his eldest son in Ireland; later we have Walter being identified as the "eldest son" when he disgraced himself in Parliament - the obvious inference being that he moved up in the chain of inheritance when the eldest son died in Ireland, and now WAS the eldest son.
On the fourth hand, Walter is being called the «u»first born«/u», not the eldest, which is not necessarily the same thing. That a son may be the eldest can change, depending upon the fates of his siblings; that he is the «i»first-born«/i» - usually doesn't change.
"Could I ever believe that a father would disinherit his sunn, «u»his first born«/u», whom only the law of God terms the Lords, nay allmostt uppon any demeritt, yet what hath Watt (Walt) Chute done ... why should you throw him oute as a bastard from your nest, spoile him of his birthright, nay of his honor, and reputation in the world ... no cause ... can be so operative to make nature forgett nature, without a great curse inherent potentially ... Give me leave to tell yow that it behooves yow to satisfy the world allso, who this notwithstanding believe no ill deserving in your son."
The quote was lifted from a letter written by Sir John Holles to George Chute. "Holles, John. Letters 1587-1637, ed. P.R. Seddon. Nottingham: Thoroton Society Record Series, XXXI, 1975, Vol 1, 111."
And Pearman is correct in that it is odd that our "Irish George" Chute never mentioned any Irish descendants in his will, and neither do his sons. If George the elder brother of Walter had traveled north with Walter Raleigh (as was supposed) to fight for the King, wouldn't Walter - who also went to war with Raleigh - have heard something of his Irish nephews (Daniel had a brother: Reverend Thomas Chute, the Chancellor of Artferd.) And yet in his own will, he makes mention only of his cousin "Waller".
Finally, the lands in Ireland were confirmed by patent by James I in 1630. Walter would have died, but George was still living. Wouldn't he have been needed to confirm an Irish land patent that had originated with his initial land grant? And it is this which makes his odd ommission of any Irish descendants in his will all the more mystifying.
Having no other genealogical theories to offer, I can't suggest that George Chute «i»isn't«/i» the Chute who founded the Irish Branch; only that his record as it stands now raises a lot of questions. It would not surprise me if further research uncovers a George Chute we hadn't yet recorded within this family, or if George was actually from another branch of the Chute family altogether - and that George, the son of Philip, really did lose his own George in Ireland. Another possibility might be that there were two or even three George Chute's in Ireland who have been merged into one over the years: one who died (or rumored to have died), one who was knighted and one who married an Evans and who was the father of Daniel.
Lastly, there is also considerable discrepancy about the dates of George's knighthood: WEC states that he was knighted on 11 JUL 1660, which would have made him approxiately age 74. Yet there are records that he was knighted earlier.
According to research done by Steve Chute, "«i»The General Armory of England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales«/i» by Sir Bernard Burke, CB, LLD and Ulster King of Arms states that the George of Stockwell, Surrey was knighted on the 14 Oct 1608 by Sir Arthur Chichester, then The Lord Deputy in Ireland for King James I. Yet WEC states he was knighted in 1660 which would have been after the Civil War and in the time of Charles II. Could he have been knighted twice??"
The date provided by Burke would have made him 22 years old, and would have been a date closer to the Ireland expedition for which it is assumed he was knighted.
Also, according to Steve Chute, "... the Virginia Charter of 1612 lists Sir George (ie already knighted) as well as some others from the Bethersden area and we know that George's brother Walter was a Captain with Sir Walter Raleigh in 1597. We also know that Walter was knighted before 1620 as a stockholders list of the Virginia Company lists him as Sir Walter Chute. Francis in Arundel believes that this is the George who as a teenager joined a punitive expedition to Munster in retaliation for the Desmond Rebellion that started about 1578 and dragged on for many years. He was awarded lands in Dingle & Castle Island in Munster for services rendered and his Knighthood was also probably a reflection of that. He married in Ireland and had at least one child Daniel but returned to England in 1609 and purchased the manor Stockwell. Francis thinks he then remarried probably twice more and lived to about 85 yrs."
The earlier date of 1608 makes more sense, but both are recorded.
WEC: "He went into Ireland during the rebellion of Desmond, 1578, and obtained grants of land near Dingle, which were soon, however, alienated."
"Irish George (by Francis' reckoning, Sir George - Philip's grandson by son George) went as a teenager to Ireland around the time of the Desmond Rebellion which started about 1578 but dragged on in stages until about 1600/01. By 1586 Queen Elizabeth's representatives were traveling throughout southern England trying to convince members of the nobility & upper class gents to move to Munster in return for virtually free land that she had confiscated from the Earl of Desmond for his traitorous behavior, nearly a quarter million acres! It was an enterprise for the rich only as they had to supply tenant farmers for the lands as well as livestock and equipment.
George probably got one of these grants which were in the area of Dingle and Limerick. Also at this time Sir Walter Raleigh became a big landholder in the same area. There followed in Munster 15 years of 'relatively' peaceful coexistence between these 'planters' as they were called and their Irish neighbors. A certain complacency developed and the planters did not keep up their bargin with the crown to pay for men at arms. So although in 1597 it was reported that the English numbered in the thousands, after rebellion broke out again in Ulster in 1600 and spread into Munster only about 200 poorly armed English settlers could be rounded up to help put down the rebellion. George & family seem to have stayed on, perhaps earning that knighthood.
His son Daniel married Johanna MacElligott, da. of John, son of Thomas. Although much of the lands of the MacElligott clan were confiscated from time to time between 1597 and 1650, Daniel aquired through this marriage the lands of Tullygarron which became Chute Hall and the family seat, his right to this property later being confirmed in 1630, according to Burke's «i»Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland«/i». Another source, «i»Families of County Kerry«/i» (author unknown), states that Daniel purchased the land in 1630 at which time he supposedly married Johanna. In 1659, Daniel's son Richard held Tullygarron as well as those other lands on which George had been granted a leasehold. The place was a going concern as a census for that year indicates 170 people, 10 English and 160 Irish. Richard's daughter married a daughter of a Crosbie who was the High Sheriff for Kerry. In 1660 this Crosbie selected Richard to represent Kerry in Parliament. However, this appointment was sharply disputed by the heads of the Bennerhasset family who were large and influencial landholders in Ballymacelligott.
A costly legal battle appears to have developed and again according to Burke it was these expenses that resulted in the so called 'alienation' of much of George's original leases. Of course by this time it seems according to Francis that this George was back in England and the 'fruitful & multiplying' was being left to Daniel, Richard and their descendants. They obviously did a good job."
«i»Frederick Stephen ("Steve") Chute, British Columbia«/i»
It is unknown whether the record listed below refers to a marriage by George himself or on behalf of one of his children.
From Cheshire, England: Parish and Probate Records
Lancashire & Cheshire
Original Documents relating to Lancashire and Cheshire, 1576-1701
Exchequer: Depositions by Commission (Cheshire).
11th and 12th Charles 1st., 1635-6. Hil., No. 23.
County: Cheshire Country: England
Sir Thos. Aston, Bart., versus Sir George Chute, knight, Robert Lipsicke, John Tilte, Thomas Courtier.
House at Norton, near Kingston, Lancashire & Cheshire:
Original Documents relating to Lancashire and Cheshire, 1576-1701
Marriage Licences Granted within the Dincese of Chester.
Exchequer: Depositions by Commission (Cheshire). 11th and 12th Charles 1st., 1635-6
Hil., No. 23.
County: Cheshire Country: England
Sir Thos. Aston, Bart., versus Sir George Chute, knight, Robert Lipsicke, John Tilte, Thomas Courtier. House at Norton, near Kingston
«u»«b»Margaret Welford Chute, daughters Anne and Francis«/u»«/b»
"When Sir George Chute, back from Ireland post 1608, married Margaret Welford, they had a daughter, Anne (tree on my page 127), and she was given by George the whole estate of her mother, who had died when bearing her second Chute child Francis (a girl). Monumental brass, with charming pictures, recorded on:
www.mbs-brasses.co.uk.pic_lib/October2005 brass_of_the_month.htm.
Anne later married a "John Prise of the Priory of Brecknock and the Priory of Hereford, Esq. (per 1634 Visitation of Herefordshire), and they had a son Thomas Prise (possibly also daughters Margaret and Elizabeth, but the text is unclear) with of course Chute blood."
«i»Francis Chute, Great Britain, MAR 2006«/i»
«b»Record Type:«/b» Chute Family History/Book
«b»Title:«/b» «i»A Genealogy and History of the Chute Family in America: With Some Account of the Family in Great Britain and Ireland, with an Account of Forty Allied Families Gathered from the Most Authentic Sources«/i»
«b»Author:«/b» William Edward Chute
«b»Published:«/b» Salem, Massachusetts, 1894
«b»Comments:«/b» Copy originally owned by George Maynard Chute, nephew of William Edward Chute with his signature on the flyleaf; handwritten notes in margins; passed to George Maynard Chute, Jr. who published an updated addendum to this work in 1968; passed to George Maynard Chute, III; passed to Jacqueline Irene Chute.
«b»Location:«/b» Privately held
«b»Type:«/b» The Visitation of Kent
«b»Obtained By:«/b» John Philipot, Marshall and Deputy to William Camden, Clarenceux
«b»Surname:«/b» Barnham
«b»Date:«/b» 1619
«b»Publisher:«/b» The Harleian Society, Volume 42, London
«b»Published:«/b» London, 1898
«b»Page(s):«/b» 168 and 169
«b»Online URL:«/b» «u»1619 Visitation of Kent <http://www.uk-genealogy.org.uk/england/Kent/visitation>«/u»
«b»LOCA:«/b» Chute Family Records/GP890-4
«b»Type:«/b» Book
«b»Title:«/b» «i»A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire«/i», New edition
«b»Author:«/b» Burke, Sir John Bernard
«b»Publishing Date:«/b» 1883
«b»Publisher:«/b» Harrison; London, Great Britain
«b»Cited as Source:«/b» Ringener Family, Sandra Ringener
«b»URL:«/b» «u»<http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:865878&id=I3364>«/u»
«b»HARD COPY LOCA:«/b» Chute Family Records/GP890-4
«b»Record Type:«/b» Book
«b»Title:«/b» «i»Catalogue of Knights, from 1660-1760«/i»
«b»Author:«/b» Francis Townsend
«b»Publisher:«/b» Harjette and Savill, London
«b»Date:«/b» 1833
«b»Page:«/b» 116
«b»This Source Has Been Cited for:«/b» «u»Sir George Chute, Kt. «/u»
«b»GROUP NO:«/b» Chute Family Records/GP3865-3
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| Person ID |
I55892 |
Glenn Cook Family |
| Last Modified |
16 Apr 2008 |
| Family |
Evans, b. Cork County, Munster, Ireland d. Yes, date unknown |
| Children |
| | 1. Daniel Chute, b. Ireland d. Chute Hall, Tulligaron, near Tralee, County Kerry, Munster Province, Ireland |
| | 2. Reverend Thomas Chute, Chancellor of Ardfert, b. Ireland d. Ardferd, County Kerry, Munster, Ireland |
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| Family ID |
F551614726 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Last Modified |
27 Mar 2008 |
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