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Saher de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester

Saher de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester[1, 2]

Male 1155 - 1219  (64 years)


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  • Name Saher de Quincy 
    Suffix 1st Earl of Winchester 
    Birth 1155 
    Gender Male 
    Death 3 Nov 1219  at Damietta, Egypt on the Fifth Crusade Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Cause: Egypt on the Fifth Crusade 
    Notes 
    • http://www.hull.ac.uk/php/cssbct/cgi-bin/gedlkup.php/n=royal?royal13074


      Magna Charta Surety

      http://www3.sympatico.ca/robert.sewell/dequincy.html#saherchildren
      Generation Three
      Saher de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester, Magna Charta Surety
      Born in 1155
      Died on November 3, 1219 at Damietta, Egypt on the Fifth Crusade.
      References:
      Richard Thomson: An Historical Essay on the Magna Charta of King John, London, 1829
      AR 53-27, MC 74-1


      Saher de Quincy was one of the 25 sureties of the Magna Charta, for which he was excommunicated. His singular christian name of Saher, or Saier, is a likely a corruption from the Saxon Segher, Sigher, or Seagar, a Conqueror. Eliza S. Quincy refers to him as "John de Quincy, created Earl of Winchester by King John, 1207. He was a leader of the Barons who forced John to sign the Magna Charta."
      The arms of Saher de Quincy are described as "Or, a fesse gules, a file of 11 points azure". As with the genealogy, the arms of Saher de Quincy are uncertain. Argent can be used instead of or, and the colours of the fesse and file can be transposed. As well, the file doesn't appear to be definite, and is pictured in different places with 5, 7, 8, 9, 11 and 12 points. (Richard Thomson: An Historical Essay on the Magna Charta of King John, London, 1829. Click here <http://www3.sympatico.ca/robert.sewell/saher.html> for more from this book.)
      Saher de Quincy married Margaret de Beaumont, daughter and heir of Robert de Beaumont, 3rd Earl of Leicester and youngest sister and co-heiress of Robert Fitz-Parnell, Earl of Leicester. For her ancestry, see Margaret de Beaumont <http://www3.sympatico.ca/robert.sewell/osbern.html>.
      Saher de Quincy and Margaret de Beaumont had the following children:
      Robert de Quincy, crusader, see Generation four
      Roger de Quincy, see Generation Four
      Hawise de Quincy, who married Hugh de Vere <http://www3.sympatico.ca/robert.sewell/devere.html>, 4th Earl of Oxford. MC 120-2
      Orabelle de Quincy, who married Richard de Harcourt. MC 111-2
      Saher de Quincy had the following children, but the name of the mother is not known:
      Robert de Quincy, 3rd son, see Generation Four
      Reginald de Quincy, who is named in The Dictionary of National Biography, (Sidney Lee, editor; London, 1894) as the "second son of Saher de Quincy", but about whom nothing else is known.
    Person ID I8024  Glenn Cook Family
    Last Modified 19 Jun 2013 

    Family Margaret FitzPernel   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Children 
     1. Robert de Quincy, Crusader   d. 1257
     2. Hawise de Quincy, Countess Oxford   d. 3 Feb
    Family ID F3259  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 19 Jun 2013 

  • Photos
    Coat of Arms
    Coat of Arms
    Saier de Quincy Arms
    Saier de Quincy Arms
    From John Speed's
    Map of Hampshire
    published 1611
    Map Collection of Hampshire
    CC Museums Service,
    item HMCMS:KD1996.16.

  • Sources 
    1. [S36] Brian Tompsett, Dept of Computer Science, University of Hull, England(B.C.Tompsett@dcs.hull.ac.uk), Directory of Royal Genealogical Data, (This work is Copyright b 1994-2002 Brian C Tompsett).

    2. [S60] http://www3.sympatico.ca/robert.sewell/capet.html#gen13.